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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? |
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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
On Sep 20, 10:31 am, Bart wrote:
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? I was wondering that exact question last night, just where did the term mizzen mast come from? Joe |
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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
"Bart" wrote in message
ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best... http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sep 20, 1:09 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best... http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm -- "j" ganz I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word missan with means to balance. |
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"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com... On Sep 20, 1:09 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best... http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm -- "j" ganz I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word missan with means to balance. I read that also... another one of those 1000s of years old, lost in the sands of time words. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
Bart wrote:
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Heh. But on MY yawl, the mizzen is in tabernacle, and when it falls, it falls forward, reducing the helmsman to ketchup. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Don't know. The etymology is mizzen inaction. -- Flying Tadpole ---------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/timfatchen http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpole |
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"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
... Bart wrote: If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Heh. But on MY yawl, the mizzen is in tabernacle, and when it falls, it falls forward, reducing the helmsman to ketchup. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Don't know. The etymology is mizzen inaction. -- Flying Tadpole ---------------------------------- http://www.myspace.com/timfatchen http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpole This makes sense, since a mizzen was originally for trim adjustments. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
"Bart" wrote in message ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? It comes from the word "missing." Of course the Brits then slurred it into mizzen. The reason it was called the missing mast was because it's position caused it to "miss" all the wind on anything other than a reach. Another reason was because it was on the end of the vessel and in heavy weather no sail was carried and it whipped so badly it often carried away. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sep 21, 5:24 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? It comes from the word "missing." Of course the Brits then slurred it into mizzen. The reason it was called the missing mast was because it's position caused it to "miss" all the wind on anything other than a reach. Another reason was because it was on the end of the vessel and in heavy weather no sail was carried and it whipped so badly it often carried away. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard That's a good way to remember what it's called. Thanks. |
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The difference between a yawl and a ketch
"Bart" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 20, 1:09 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ps.com... If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch! If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it. A good way to remember the difference between a yawl and a ketch. It helps people remember, and it is a lot easy to explain than a complicated discussion how a yawl has it's mast behind the rudder post and is typically 1/2 the height of the main mast, while on a ketch the mizzen mast is about 2/3 the height of the main mast and is located ahead of the rudder post. Anyone know where the word mizzen comes from? Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best... http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm -- "j" ganz I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word missan with means to balance. A balancing sail, the mizzen, spelled mizen in the 1700s, is the aftermost mast and its sails and gear on a two or three masted vessel, the third mast on a vessel with more than three masts (the exceptions being brigs and two masted schooners). The term comes from the Middle English "mesan" and goes back to Italian mazzane, Latn medianus (middle or mid-size) and apparently is of Arabic origin, misan (balance). See Steel's Elements and Practice of Rigging, and Seamanship, 1794 |
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