[Mr. Luddite]

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k

[F*O*A*D]

On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k


1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.


--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats.

[KC]

On 10/25/2014 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k

She's just trying to keep up with that fake Indian bitch democrats love
so much.. Seems the bigger the liar, the stronger the dem support is...

[Mr. Luddite]

On 10/25/2014 7:34 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k


1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.



The House version of that bill passed with *all* Democrats voting for it
along with 86 of the Republicans. It died in the Senate though until it
was modified to include the tax breaks for businesses to offset the cost
of higher wages. *That's* what she voted for. (of course a year later
the whole thing didn't matter anymore).

Two sentences later though she reminds the Boston audience that
corporations and businesses don't create jobs. Why give them a tax
break then?

The minimum wage thing is always the issue that Democrats rely upon to
garner votes. They are focusing on it again now. Then they bitch about
corporations not paying their share of taxes after passing the bill that
created tax breaks.

More of note though: Hillary is adopting the party line BS along with
the tones of sarcasm and arrogance that liberals apparently find so
appealing.

We've had over 6 years of arrogant leadership. Do we need more?

[F*O*A*D]

On 10/25/14 8:14 AM, KC wrote:
On 10/25/2014 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k

She's just trying to keep up with that fake Indian bitch democrats love
so much.. Seems the bigger the liar, the stronger the dem support is...



Oooh...you are such a little trip. So, you don't like Warren because her
mom told her she had some native American ancestors and Warren repeated
that, but you support the Republican candidates who will only make your
miserable little life more miserable...and shorter. Who is going to pay
for your family's health care coverage if the GOPers are elected and
kill what you have? You won't be. Bye-bye.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats.

[Mr. Luddite]

On 10/25/2014 9:56 AM, F*O*A*D created a new signature line:


--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.


Tough demographics in your area, huh? :-)

[Mr. Luddite]

On 10/25/2014 10:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2014 7:34 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k


1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.



The House version of that bill passed with *all* Democrats voting for it
along with 86 of the Republicans. It died in the Senate though until it
was modified to include the tax breaks for businesses to offset the cost
of higher wages. *That's* what she voted for. (of course a year later
the whole thing didn't matter anymore).

Two sentences later though she reminds the Boston audience that
corporations and businesses don't create jobs. Why give them a tax
break then?

The minimum wage thing is always the issue that Democrats rely upon to
garner votes. They are focusing on it again now. Then they bitch about
corporations not paying their share of taxes after passing the bill that
created tax breaks.

More of note though: Hillary is adopting the party line BS along with
the tones of sarcasm and arrogance that liberals apparently find so
appealing.

We've had over 6 years of arrogant leadership. Do we need more?

As time goes by I am convinced more and more that only those who are
verifiable US citizens and who are 25 to 55 should be able to vote in
any election in the USA. If you are under 25 you haven't really got a
clue as to what is going on in the world and how it affects you and once
you are over 55 all you want to do is make the rest of your life
comfortable on someone else's back. As far as non-US citizens go I
really don't care what they think, what they want or whether they are
happy.


Be careful of expressing any rational thoughts. They are not welcome by
some here.


My brother's favorite saying:

"Republican while you work and a Democrat when you retire".

[F*O*A*D]

On 10/25/14 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/25/2014 10:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2014 7:34 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't*
create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k


1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.



The House version of that bill passed with *all* Democrats voting for it
along with 86 of the Republicans. It died in the Senate though until it
was modified to include the tax breaks for businesses to offset the cost
of higher wages. *That's* what she voted for. (of course a year later
the whole thing didn't matter anymore).

Two sentences later though she reminds the Boston audience that
corporations and businesses don't create jobs. Why give them a tax
break then?

The minimum wage thing is always the issue that Democrats rely upon to
garner votes. They are focusing on it again now. Then they bitch about
corporations not paying their share of taxes after passing the bill that
created tax breaks.

More of note though: Hillary is adopting the party line BS along with
the tones of sarcasm and arrogance that liberals apparently find so
appealing.

We've had over 6 years of arrogant leadership. Do we need more?

As time goes by I am convinced more and more that only those who are
verifiable US citizens and who are 25 to 55 should be able to vote in
any election in the USA. If you are under 25 you haven't really got a
clue as to what is going on in the world and how it affects you and once
you are over 55 all you want to do is make the rest of your life
comfortable on someone else's back. As far as non-US citizens go I
really don't care what they think, what they want or whether they are
happy.


Be careful of expressing any rational thoughts. They are not welcome by
some here.


My brother's favorite saying:

"Republican while you work and a Democrat when you retire".



You think disenfranchising tens of millions of American voters is a good
thing, eh? How very Republican of you.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.

[Harrold]

On 10/25/2014 10:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You think disenfranchising tens of millions of American voters is a good
thing, eh? How very Republican of you.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.

You mean How O'Bamaesque, don't you?

[F*O*A*D]

On 10/25/14 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:34:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't* create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k


1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.

I think the relevant point is it was a small incremental increase in
the minimum wage, not the quantum leap folks like you advocate. That
would cost minimum wage jobs.
We already had the discussion in the fast food thread that it would
not take much to cause fast food joints to cut their staff through
automation. It may happen anyway, simply because of health care costs.
That would ripple through the other jobs done by unskilled labor.

If I was really worried about workers, I would be trying to figure out
a way to create higher skill, higher paying jobs anyway, not simply
trying to increase the cost of unskilled labor.



Just what "quantum leap" in the minimum wage do you think I advocate?



--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.