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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.

Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?

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On Sep 20, 10:31 am, Bart wrote:
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.

Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


I was wondering that exact question last night, just where did the
term mizzen mast come from?

Joe

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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.

Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?



Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best...

http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm

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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.


A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best...

http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm

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I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word
missan with means to balance.

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On Sep 20, 1:09 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.


A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best...

http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm

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"j" ganz


I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word
missan with means to balance.



I read that also... another one of those 1000s of years old, lost in the
sands of time words.


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Bart wrote:
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Heh. But on MY yawl, the mizzen is in tabernacle, and when it falls, it
falls forward, reducing the helmsman to ketchup.



Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


Don't know. The etymology is mizzen inaction.

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Bart wrote:
If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Heh. But on MY yawl, the mizzen is in tabernacle, and when it falls, it
falls forward, reducing the helmsman to ketchup.



Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


Don't know. The etymology is mizzen inaction.

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This makes sense, since a mizzen was originally for trim adjustments.


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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.

A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.

Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


It comes from the word "missing." Of course the Brits then slurred it
into mizzen. The reason it was called the missing mast was because it's
position caused it to "miss" all the wind on anything other than a
reach. Another reason was because it was on the end of the vessel and
in heavy weather no sail was carried and it whipped so badly it often
carried away.

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard

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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.


A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


It comes from the word "missing." Of course the Brits then slurred it
into mizzen. The reason it was called the missing mast was because it's
position caused it to "miss" all the wind on anything other than a
reach. Another reason was because it was on the end of the vessel and
in heavy weather no sail was carried and it whipped so badly it often
carried away.

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard


That's a good way to remember what it's called.
Thanks.

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On Sep 20, 1:09 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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If it falls and you catch it, it's a ketch!
If it falls, on a yawl, y'all go get it.


A good way to remember the difference
between a yawl and a ketch. It
helps people remember, and it is a lot
easy to explain than a complicated
discussion how a yawl has it's mast
behind the rudder post and is typically
1/2 the height of the main mast, while
on a ketch the mizzen mast is about
2/3 the height of the main mast and is
located ahead of the rudder post.


Anyone know where the word
mizzen comes from?


Here's a reference... it's uncertain at best...

http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Etymology/Mizzen.htm

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I read that mizzen comes from the Arabic word
missan with means to balance.


A balancing sail, the mizzen, spelled mizen in the 1700s, is the aftermost
mast and its sails and gear on a two or three masted vessel, the third mast
on a vessel with more than three masts (the exceptions being brigs and two
masted schooners). The term comes from the Middle English "mesan" and goes
back to Italian mazzane, Latn medianus (middle or mid-size) and apparently
is of Arabic origin, misan (balance).

See Steel's Elements and Practice of Rigging, and Seamanship, 1794


 
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