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Bluewater C&C 33 - OPINIONS??
Looking for opinions on whether or not one thinks that a C&C 33 is
capable of handling big oceans. The C&C has a fin keel drawing 5.5' with a free standing spade rudder. Should making a transatlantic passage even be considered? Thanks for any advice and/or opinion. Rob |
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wrote: Looking for opinions on whether or not one thinks that a C&C 33 is capable of handling big oceans. The C&C has a fin keel drawing 5.5' with a free standing spade rudder. Should making a transatlantic passage even be considered? Thanks for any advice and/or opinion. Rob I would say, that given the boat is seaworthy (including possibly some upgrades, has the proper equipment, and the skipper/crew is up for it, then a qualified yes. C&Cs, depending on the boat, year, condition, are great boats. A lot of qualifications, but that's typical for all boats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Bluewater C&C 33 - OPINIONS??
A nicely balanced reply.... I mostly agree, although I think it wouldn't
take that much to fit her for a crossing, given all else is right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "rhys" wrote in message ... On 28 Dec 2005 11:13:00 -0800, wrote: Looking for opinions on whether or not one thinks that a C&C 33 is capable of handling big oceans. The C&C has a fin keel drawing 5.5' with a free standing spade rudder. Should making a transatlantic passage even be considered? Thanks for any advice and/or opinion. This is very, very dependent on condition of the boat and rigging and condition of the crew. C&C 33s are old coastal boats frequently run hard as club racers. If in freshwater, they probably have original rigging, which you'd want to switch up to 1/4" or better, 5/16th for open ocean work. You'd also want to replace original sheaves and running rigging. Offshore is no place to untangle a halyard. The coach-house is borderline in my opinion in strength for heavy weather, and the fixed plexiglass portlights will NOT take a boarding sea in a blow. Similarly, the bunks are not commonly rigged for sea, nor is the galley ideal. Being more racer than cruiser, the C&C 33 would sail close-hauled well, but she's tender and the motion would be tough on the crew. I would also question the suitability of the compainway hatch (usually plexi or plywood drop boards, the size of the scuppers, the smallish main for downwind work and the boat's parsimonious cargo space and tankage. Lastly, a lot of them still have Atomic 4s, and you simply can't carry enough gas on a C&C 33 (safely, at least) to run the alternator to keep your batteries charged on a three week or worse crossing. Even with a smaller-sipping diesel, the tankage (usually 20 gallons or less) will not suffice. My point of view is from owning a very similar (but even narrower) C&C-designed Viking 33 with a near identical sail plan and layout. I have always maintained that while my boat is strong enough to survive a blow, it might kill the crew G. I would take my boat to Newfoundland, or to the Caribbean, unquestionably, but it's just not the right boat for the Atlantic. Better you should borrow a Contessa 26 or a Westsail 32...proven, if plodding, offshore designs that will get you there with no glamour, maybe, but plenty of security. YMMV, R. |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:28:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: A nicely balanced reply.... I mostly agree, although I think it wouldn't take that much to fit her for a crossing, given all else is right. Well, thanks. C&C 33s are very common at my club and on Lake Ontario in general, and while they are fine boats and can take 40 knots in a squall...I just don't think there's enough beef to keep the sea out in the original configuration. Particularly the portlights and the hatches...as I am currently replacing these on my similarly aged boat, I just don't a quarter-inch of 7x 21" plexi staying in its frame if hit on the beam... They're fine boats, though...just not equipped for three weeks in the North Atlantic. Also, being old fin keelers, they don't hove to particularly well, and you wouldn't want to take on much water in those flat bilges. You know something, though? If the choice is between going and not going, maybe you should hop to St. John's, Nfld. and see how it goes inshore. If you find it acceptable and the boat well-found enough, then you can do the 2,000 mile hop to Ireland...which is colder, but shorter. R. |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:14:51 GMT, Commodore Joe Redcloud
wrote: The only real issue particular to that model is that the original rudder was a bit too small for some situations. ==================================== That's true also but I thought Rhys hit the nail right on the head with his list of issues. |
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In article .com,
wrote: Looking for opinions on whether or not one thinks that a C&C 33 is capable of handling big oceans. The C&C has a fin keel drawing 5.5' with a free standing spade rudder. Should making a transatlantic passage even be considered? Thanks for any advice and/or opinion. Rob Just to punch up one item: The boat is *probably* strong enough or can be upgraded so that it is. Is the crew? Sister ships to our Xan (below) have done the trip, one did it twice. I have a fair amount of skill and experience and we don't skimp on upgrades and repairs, so she may be stronger than new. We won't be doing it soon. There's too much we want to see on this side of the pond. My opinion is that too many people get the "right" boat for a trip they *might* do. My experience is that those who get the boat they can actually use for the next 5-7 years come out ahead. Few who DO strike out to blue water do it in the boat they originally thought they *had* to have. We got Xan for the what we expected to do in 5 years. A dozen years later, we've done far more than that and STILL see her serving us well for the next five. When we need a bigger boat for a weekend or so, we rent it. Unless we hit the lottery, we intend to keep Xan until after we've done at least 3 months in the Bahamas or similar to see if we like living aboard. (It's scheduled for the next time I'm between jobs, which might be retirement the way things are going at work, darn it.) If we decide long distance isn't for us, she'll do just fine at the end of our retirement home's dock. In the meantime, our "wish list" for that long distance cruiser has changed many times and the cruising kitty's building quickly while we're having a HECK of a lot of fun. There's a lot to be said about not paying the bank interest and having a tough, simple boat that's cheap to maintain. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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