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Damm Roaches
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"Doug Kanter" wrote: "Vito" wrote in message ... Sorry to tell y'all this but Ms Rosalie's right: almost everything we eat contains insect and/or rodent parts and droppings. There are actually printed guides for "permissible levels of insect parts" for food products. Candy is especially interesting, for obvious reasons. Anyone who thinks Hershey can cook up sugar and chocolate all day and not attract ants is a complete idiot. My GF grew up in Yauco, in SW Puerto Rico. Her housing development was built 20 years ago on top of old sugar cane plantations. Nice house, nice neighborhood, but the ants never left. You can wipe down the entire kitchen with Lysol or bleach, walk away, and 20 minutes later, there'll be ants on the counter, looking for whatever it is they're looking for. They're tiny, and they wipe up nicely with a damp paper towel. It bothered me on the first visit, but it was obvious that her mother was as obsessive about a clean kitchen as I am, and everywhere I went, people had the same problem. The standard comment was "Of course...everyone has them". I think we worry too much about some bugs. Yes I agree. When we lived in Key West we had three kinds of ants - sweets ants who would be all over the counter the day after we sliced a watermelon there, fat or meat eating ants, and crazy ants. The crazy ants appeared mostly in the bathroom, and they ran around like crazy - never appeared to be going anywhere in particular. When we lived in Pensacola the ants took up residence in the shower head. Since my husband took 'Navy showers', he would inevitably get sprayed with ants when he took his morning shower. I guess eventually the ants moved elsewhere, or else my husband learned to run the shower for a couple of seconds before he got into it. Ants are very clean and I don't mind them much as long as they don't bite me. I don't like fire ants. grandma Rosalie |
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I hear you, Tim. I use the same method and swear by it. But it's not roaches
I'm keeping at bay, it's Bengal Tigers. And by god it works! Haven't had one in my living spaces, ever. -- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at gte dot net (old -- don't use) klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net (new) "Tim Cole" wrote in message ... I haven't had a roach in my living space in thirty years. When I move in I take a box of baking soda and sprinkle it behind and under everything. A little extra in the galley spaces, mate. |
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Thanks for helping straighten out my memory :^)
Larry Demers Jack Rye wrote: Phosgene COC12 also called Carbonyl Chloride. First came into use during World War 1. Where it was used alone or mixed with Chlorine. Inhalation of the gas causes sever lung injury. With the full effect appearing several hours after exposure. Carbon Monoxide and Chlorine in the presence of a catalyst produces Phosgene. Phosgene reacts with water to form Carbon Dioxide and Hydrochloric Acid. Phosgene COC12 also called Carbonyl Chloride. a colorless, chemically reactive, highly toxic gas. Having an odor like that of musty hay. Jack "Larry Demers" wrote in message ... I thought that mixing ammonia and chlorine produced Phosgene gas..as you say..exceedingly deadly. Jack Rye wrote: Here is one of my best tricks at getting rid of roaches on a boat. Make sure that you can open all the windows and hatches from outside the boat. You do not want to go inside the boat to open the hatches. Put a 5 gallon container inside the boat with a few fans to circulate the air. Pour equal parts of Clorox and Ammonia into the five gallon container. Now run like hell and get away from the boat. Clorox and Ammonia mixed together produces a vary deadly substance called Chlorine Gas. Chlorine gas is odorless and colorless, and highly deadly. Chlorine Gas will kill everything and anything in a matter of a minutes. Many a house wife has died from mixing the two chemicals together by accident. I MUST REPEAT CLOROX AND AMMONIA MIXED IN EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS WILL KILL YOU VARY QUICKLY. The generator trick works well and the smell will be gone after airing out the boat. Jack "Jack Rye" .# wrote in message news:WQSlb.33413$Rd4.31832@fed1read07... Because they are cold-blooded organisms, insects do not survive very well in extreme cold or hot temperatures. Each insect species has certain temperature and humidity conditions where it thrives. Although there are some differences between species, it should come as no surprise that our domestic cockroaches are best adapted to temperatures that we maintain in our homes. They do not develop or reproduce when temperatures are too cold (below 45degrees F) or too hot (above 115degrees F). Hot and cold temperatures can be very effective in killing cockroaches, but the adverse temperatures must be maintained for a period of time. Hot and cold treatments are also most effective when they "shock" the cockroaches' system. If cold temperatures are gradually lowered, insects have physiological mechanisms that allow them to survive the cold. But, if you take a jar of cockroaches from room temperature and put it into a sub-zero freezer, the insects will be dead within a half hour. They just cannot adapt that quickly. Because cockroaches cannot survive temperatures above 115degrees F to 120degrees F, it is possible to use heat to eradicate cockroaches from restaurants and food service establishments. After all heat sensitive equipment is removed from the building, the temperature is increased to about 140-150degrees F for five to six hours. It may not be possible for the homeowner to increase the heat that much inside the home. But if a small, infested appliance has many small crevices and can withstand 150degrees F heat, a similar procedure can be used. The procedure is simple -- place the heat-proof metal appliance in an oven, and after several hours at 150degrees F, the roaches will be dead. Cold can also be used to kill cockroaches, but it takes a prolonged exposure to low temperatures to kill egg cases. Appliances or furniture can be left in a garage when temperatures are below 0degrees F for several days. If moving, leaving possessions in a truck or van will do the same thing. Infestations in wall voids or indoor cavities can be subjected to extreme cold by using a CO2 (carbon dioxide) gas canister. This will freeze a localized area. Infested appliances can also be fumigated with CO2. Place it in a plastic bag or other airtight container and inject carbon dioxide gas. Allow freezing to occur. If a small item can be subjected to freezing, it also can be placed in a freezer for several hours (or overnight) to kill the cockroaches. Jack "Steve Christensen" wrote in message ... In article , Rosalie B. says... x-no-archive:yes "Paul" wrote: Errr....why not just go buy a chunk of dryice, toss it in and close the boat up? One extra Oxygen molecule. But it's not available is it? I thought it would be bound up and unusable. We spray it on a fire to choke it out so I figured it may have oxygen but it's not available. For that matter, water has oxygen too doesn't it? But you can't breathe it since it's not available. I may be wrong ... I'm just wondering. Carbon dioxide (from dry ice) is a simple asphyxiant. If it displaces the oxygen in the air it will kill you, but it takes quite a bit of it. You can be exposed to 30,000 ppm for 15 minutes and still be OK. Carbon monoxide at 1500 ppm may lead to death, and the 15 minute exposure limit is 35 ppm for an hour. This is because without the extra oxygen molecule, CO has a 200 to 300 times great affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen does. So even if there is enough oxygen present, the CO will kick it off the hemoglobin and you will die. So it isn't just a simple asphyxiant any more. Roselie is correct about the CO being more than an asphyxiant. But the object of all this is to kill roaches, right? It's been awhile since college zoology, but I don't think roaches even have circulatory systems, let alone hemoglobin. I have frozen roaches in liquid nitrogen (when bored during a late night in the lab) only to have them thaw out and crawl away. Hardy little beasts. Does anyone even know whether depriving them of oxygen (with CO, CO2, N2, whatever) will kill them? I bet it's damn hard to do. Steve Christensen |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Julian" wrote in message ... If there was a way to kill eggs before they hatch then I have such a hate of roaches that I would seriously consider creating a decontamination chamber on deck somewhere and try to process any material coming onto the boat in case there were eggs in it. Hopefully, you'd also plan to wash everything you decontaminated before your children touched it, right? And things like boxes of noodles wouldn't be processed that way. I don't have kids, but a sensible warning anyway. And yes, definitely lots of washing afterwards. - Julian |
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"Keith" wrote in message ...
Egg size depends on the species. Those big tree roaches (Palmetto bugs for you FL folks) have an egg case about 3/8" long, dark brown. Aarghh!!! I'm almost afraid to ask, but how big is an adult tree roach? - Julian |
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ROTFLMAO
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Horace Brownbag" wrote in message ... On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:53:18 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Jack Rye" .# wrote in message news:gXVlb.33432$Rd4.2825@fed1read07... Thanks. Don't mined if I do. Cheers, and may I toast you on such an astute observation. Dirty secret. If I'm up at 4:00 AM because the neighbor's dog is out making noise, I'll sometimes dose my cat (Rosie the Horrible) with catnip, let her out, and toss cat treats along the fenceline. Drives the friggin' dog nuts, and there seems to be no limit as to how much the the cat's willing to spend along that fence. The dog ends up with its neck and legs completely wrapped in its chain. Much more fun than calling the cops to enforce the noise ordinance, which doesn't work most of the time anyway. I wouldn't call it in as a noise violation. I'd call animal control. If they are that irritating there is a possibility of abuse. I think there would be a greater probability of achieving a favorable result. Interesting point. Frankly, my definition of dog abuse is letting average people introduce two dogs for purposes of making puppies. For this reason, my cat's vet has stopped using the term "golden retriever". She calls them "hip problems". |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:34:21 +0100, "Julian"
wrote: "Keith" wrote in message ... Egg size depends on the species. Those big tree roaches (Palmetto bugs for you FL folks) have an egg case about 3/8" long, dark brown. Aarghh!!! I'm almost afraid to ask, but how big is an adult tree roach? Most of the big ones I see are about 2 inches, maybe a bit bigger if I was generous with the antennae and wing tips. The ones who land on you when you least expect are around 4 inches and even bigger when it's dark, I swear....but if I pin mounted one of these huge beasts and put a measure to it... it might be a bit over 2. ....now the wharf roaches in Fiji. They are as big as puppy dogs. |
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I came up with a roach reducer (rather than claiming that it really
eliminates them) accidentally. I poured some hot grease into a tin can to let the grease cool and solidify before throwing it away. The next day when I looked into the can, there were several roaches caught in the grease. Apparently they were attracted by the smell, but when they got into the grease they could not get back out. Just to experiment I left the grease can out and within a few days it was practically filled with roaches. Kind of the "greasy spoon" equivalent of the "roach hotel." Lee Huddleston s/v Truelove |
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"Lee Huddleston" writes: I came up with a roach reducer (rather than claiming that it really eliminates them) accidentally. I poured some hot grease into a tin can to let the grease cool and solidify before throwing it away. The next day when I looked into the can, there were several roaches caught in the grease. Apparently they were attracted by the smell, but when they got into the grease they could not get back out. Just to experiment I left the grease can out and within a few days it was practically filled with roaches. Kind of the "greasy spoon" equivalent of the "roach hotel." An old and very effective method. Another use for empty coffee cans. -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
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