Marking Spraydecks

[Peter]

I have some black neoprene decks I want to mark up for my club.

Does anybody have any recommendations on what to use? I do not really want
to damage the decks with some solvent based paint.

TIA

Peter



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[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Peter
> wrote:
> I have some black neoprene decks I want to mark up for my club.
>
> Does anybody have any recommendations on what to use? I do not really want
> to damage the decks with some solvent based paint.
>

Off to your local computer shop and purchase a pack of Transfer Paper - print
up your logo / pic / name or whatever and iron on to your deck. Don't forget
to reverse everything before printing...


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of ironing

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[Peter]

"Allan Bennett" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Peter
> > wrote:
> > I have some black neoprene decks I want to mark up for my club.
> >
> > Does anybody have any recommendations on what to use? I do not really
want
> > to damage the decks with some solvent based paint.
> >
>
> Off to your local computer shop and purchase a pack of Transfer Paper -
print
> up your logo / pic / name or whatever and iron on to your deck. Don't
forget
> to reverse everything before printing...
>
>
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of ironing
>
> --
>

Not a bad idea. Any experience of how long a transfer would last?
I am not sure about the idea of ironing the deck. Worth a try I guess.

Thanks

P


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[roo]

Allan Bennett > wrote in message

> Not a fan of ironing

You might not appreciate this then.... ;-)

http://www.extremeironing.com/

[Peter]

"roo" > wrote in message
om...
> Allan Bennett > wrote in message
>
> > Not a fan of ironing
>
> You might not appreciate this then.... ;-)
>
> http://www.extremeironing.com/


Soo.... ironing the transfer on the deck whilst going down a grade IV rapid
seems to be the thing to do...

;-)

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[Allan Bennett]

In article >, roo
> wrote:
> Allan Bennett > wrote in message
>
> > Not a fan of ironing
>
> You might not appreciate this then.... ;-)
>
> http://www.extremeironing.com/

Definitely not!


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of ever-decreasing circles

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[Keith Meredith]

In article >,
Peter > wrote:

> Not a bad idea. Any experience of how long a transfer would last?
> I am not sure about the idea of ironing the deck. Worth a try I guess.

Don't do it!

The transfers only really work on light coloured backgrounds and the iron
has to be on the hottest setting - way above the melting point of the
rubber in neoprene.

Go to your local DIY store and get a tube of white silicon sealant. With
the smallest nozzle size you should be able write on the neoprene. Should
be quite durable when dry - especially if you apply to an area which isn't
over-stretched.

Best wishes

Keith

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| | |__ | \ | \ / \__/ when I realised I could swim | On the R. Ouse
but not fly!" |at Harrold, Beds

[Richard Seaby]

In message >, Keith Meredith
> writes
>In article >,
> Peter > wrote:
>
>> Not a bad idea. Any experience of how long a transfer would last?
>> I am not sure about the idea of ironing the deck. Worth a try I guess.
>
>Don't do it!
>
>The transfers only really work on light coloured backgrounds and the iron
>has to be on the hottest setting - way above the melting point of the
>rubber in neoprene.
>
>Go to your local DIY store and get a tube of white silicon sealant. With
>the smallest nozzle size you should be able write on the neoprene. Should
>be quite durable when dry - especially if you apply to an area which isn't
>over-stretched.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Keith
>

If they are shock cord decks you can stitch onto the shock cord if you
are careful - remember to leave room for it to stretch - the other
option is sowing name tags on the deck release

Just a thought

Richard
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[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Keith Meredith
> wrote:
> In article >,
> Peter > wrote:
>
> > Not a bad idea. Any experience of how long a transfer would last?
> > I am not sure about the idea of ironing the deck. Worth a try I guess.
>
> Don't do it!
>
> The transfers only really work on light coloured backgrounds

Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?

> and the iron has to be on the hottest setting - way above the melting point
> of the rubber in neoprene.

More tosh!

I used the technique commercially on neoprene-proofed nylon gear with no
problems. Printing on to the nylon covering of neoprene items should not be
a problem. There is negligible heat transfer through the layers, IME, and
there is no direct contact between the iron and garment.



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of silly cons.



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[Peter]

> > Don't do it!
> >
> > The transfers only really work on light coloured backgrounds
>
> Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?
>
> > and the iron has to be on the hottest setting - way above the melting
point
> > of the rubber in neoprene.
>


Ok.... I am confused.... how do I print white?

P

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[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Peter
> wrote:
> > > Don't do it!
> > >
> > > The transfers only really work on light coloured backgrounds
> >
> > Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?
> >
> > > and the iron has to be on the hottest setting - way above the melting
> point
> > > of the rubber in neoprene.
> >
>
>
> Ok.... I am confused.... how do I print white?
>

Change "font colour" in your document package?

It's easy to change things like that, here - on a decent computer. I presume
your PC or Mac can cope. After all, in order to print on to the transfer
paper you will need a bubble-jet printer (which can print in an array of
lovely colours as well as B&W).

If you are worried about white-on-white, do the original on screen in black
and then change to white-or-whatever or try changing the background colour.


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of primary education

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[Keith Meredith]

In article >,
Allan Bennett > wrote:
> Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?

Doh!!

White print is merely the absence of any ink! You cannot get white by
mixing pigments!


> There is negligible heat transfer through the layers, IME, and
> there is no direct contact between the iron and garment.

Enough to scorch white cotton if you don't keep the iron moving pretty
rapidly!

Best wishes

Keith

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|\/| |_ |_) |_) \/ /\ up canoeing instead of climbing | Canoe Club
| | |__ | \ | \ / \__/ when I realised I could swim | On the R. Ouse
but not fly!" |at Harrold, Beds

[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Keith Meredith
> wrote:
> In article >,
> Allan Bennett > wrote:
> > Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?
>
> Doh!!
>
> White print is merely the absence of any ink! You cannot get white by
> mixing pigments!

Duh!

You obviously have negligible grip of how these things work... Printing is
via a special transfer paper.

I have just tried printing white on to a black T-shirt - seems OK to me.*

>
> > There is negligible heat transfer through the layers, IME, and
> > there is no direct contact between the iron and garment.
>
> Enough to scorch white cotton if you don't keep the iron moving pretty
> rapidly!
>

Duh!

No ironing experts at the other place, then?

Instructions suggest setting the iron to 'cotton'. Now read my comment that
you quoted above.

I can't find any suggestion that the iron should be in direct contact with
the garment or that it should be left stationary until it smokes.

Nor do the instructions suggest that you test the temperature of your iron by
holding it against your face, nor do they supply a scorch-test colour chart
for the same purpose.

Nor do they suggest trekking to your nearest PC-Nerd shop and asking for a
tank of pearly-flo-white ink for your bumblejet 5006 printer.

You can, of course, do all or any of these things if you so wish.

Now, I must check white printing on to a white T-shirt...



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of smoking substances

* I printed "Keith Meredith irons his panties - they're scorch-marks, honest"

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[Mike Buckley]

Nice to see you can manage to be rude and obnoxious even when the BCU isnt
involved.


Allan Bennett > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Keith Meredith
> > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Allan Bennett > wrote:
> > > Tosh! Use white text or graphics...?
> >
> > Doh!!
> >
> > White print is merely the absence of any ink! You cannot get white by
> > mixing pigments!
>
> Duh!
>
> You obviously have negligible grip of how these things work... Printing
is
> via a special transfer paper.
>
> I have just tried printing white on to a black T-shirt - seems OK to me.*
>
> >
> > > There is negligible heat transfer through the layers, IME, and
> > > there is no direct contact between the iron and garment.
> >
> > Enough to scorch white cotton if you don't keep the iron moving pretty
> > rapidly!
> >
>
> Duh!
>
> No ironing experts at the other place, then?
>
> Instructions suggest setting the iron to 'cotton'. Now read my comment
that
> you quoted above.
>
> I can't find any suggestion that the iron should be in direct contact with
> the garment or that it should be left stationary until it smokes.
>
> Nor do the instructions suggest that you test the temperature of your iron
by
> holding it against your face, nor do they supply a scorch-test colour
chart
> for the same purpose.
>
> Nor do they suggest trekking to your nearest PC-Nerd shop and asking for a
> tank of pearly-flo-white ink for your bumblejet 5006 printer.
>
> You can, of course, do all or any of these things if you so wish.
>
> Now, I must check white printing on to a white T-shirt...
>
>
>
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of smoking substances
>
> * I printed "Keith Meredith irons his panties - they're scorch-marks,
honest"
>
> --
>

[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Mike Buckley
> wrote:
> Nice to see you can manage to be rude and obnoxious even when the BCU isnt
> involved.
>

Good to see that Buckey can still make inaccurate and irrelevant
observations and manage ad hominem comments yet still make no contribution to
the topic.

No change, then.

Perhaps it's time to get off your high horse and enter the real world. Or
perhaps your giveaway mendacious outburst disguised as righteous indignation
is spurred by socially inadequate ironing ability or... is it the nebulous
reference to soiled underwear which causes you Freudian embarrassment?



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of the humourless

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[Keith Meredith]

In article >,
Allan Bennett > wrote:
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of the humourless

But self-hatred is so negative :-)

Best wishes

Keith

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|\/| |_ |_) |_) \/ /\ up canoeing instead of climbing | Canoe Club
| | |__ | \ | \ / \__/ when I realised I could swim | On the R. Ouse
but not fly!" |at Harrold, Beds

[Mike Buckley]

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(I typed all the above in white - - - - - - - - - )

Mike ;-)


Keith Meredith > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Allan Bennett > wrote:
> > Allan Bennett
> > Not a fan of the humourless
>
> But self-hatred is so negative :-)
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
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> __ _ _ @ + "I took | Water Ramblers
> |\/| |_ |_) |_) \/ /\ up canoeing instead of climbing | Canoe Club
> | | |__ | \ | \ / \__/ when I realised I could swim | On the R. Ouse
> but not fly!" |at Harrold, Beds
>

[David Kemper]

Top posting continued as MB likes it backwards, or so I've heard.




Don't worry, I'll print it out on black paper.............

<later>

ooooo!

That wasn't very nice!

Shame on you!

David
Not a fan of secret messages


PS
Just to clarify this DIY T shirt printing transfer lark, does the
backing sheet have a white background onto which the design is printed?
If not how do they print onto black T shirts using transfers? Are they
specially printed rather than using a home type ink jet printer?

As an afterthought, I used to have a paint-pen which held liquid paint
similar to ink and came in various colours including white. Revell
made/marketed them for detailing model kits. I used a white one for
several years for repainting the worn off dots on control knobs of
equipment I repair. I could do with finding another 1 or 3, so if anyone
knows of a stockist please post it here. They should work on black spray
decks too.
David

"Mike Buckley" > wrote in message
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> Keith Meredith > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Allan Bennett > wrote:
> > > Allan Bennett
> > > Not a fan of the humourless
> >
> > But self-hatred is so negative :-)
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > --
> > __ _ _ @ + "I took | Water
Ramblers
> > |\/| |_ |_) |_) \/ /\ up canoeing instead of climbing | Canoe
Club
> > | | |__ | \ | \ / \__/ when I realised I could swim | On the R.
Ouse
> > but not fly!" |at Harrold,
Beds
> >
>
>

[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Keith Meredith
> wrote:
> In article >,
> Allan Bennett > wrote:
> > Allan Bennett
> > Not a fan of the humourless
>
> But self-hatred is so negative :-)
>

Shallow, weak, misplaced - not worthy of you, even if it does reflect your
personal experience...

<advice warning>

Don't hate yourself in the morning - sleep 'till noon.

</advice warning>

Allan Bennett
Not a fan of pussy-cats

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[Allan Bennett]

In article >, Mike Buckley
> wrote:
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> Mike ;-)
>

Makes about as much sense as usual, but without the personal remarks. Still
nothing relevant to the topic, though...


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of white supremacy

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[Ian Snowdon]

>Just to clarify this DIY T shirt printing transfer lark, does the
>backing sheet have a white background onto which the design is printed?
>If not how do they print onto black T shirts using transfers? Are they
>specially printed rather than using a home type ink jet printer?
>

My wife used to use fabric paints/inks on T-shirts, they were marketed
by a company called Tri-chem (www.tri-chem.co.uk). Don't know what it
would be like on a spraydeck, sure survived many washes before my
favourite T-shirt gave up the ghost.

Just for the record, the caption on the T-shirt was "You're not drunk if
you can lie on the floor without hanging on".
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Snowy